Thursday, March 20, 2014

• March 20, 2014 Senate Meeting

Senate Notes March 20th, 2014

  1. A. INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS – Josh J. from Chemistry and Brett Kaufman from English are the new Part Time Faculty Reps. Brett K. joins Carla from the music departments as the senator and Josh is the alternate. Craig Justice, Vice President of Instruction, was another guest.
  2. B. Public Comments:  1) Ilkner Urbas White—she discussed the faculty advisor handbook for ASIVC, which has apparently been around for many years and now, under the temp “Helen Locke,” faculty advisors are being told to follow it. But its requirements are not always sensible, says Ilkner. It over-regulates. She wants to know the mechanism for fixing this. Kathy advised that Academic Affairs look into it. Also suggestion that she will take it to SAMMO meeting to bring this issue to the attention of the college and administrative bodies. The link to this document will be placed on the minutes for this meeting under the Senate web page- take a look and let us know your thoughts.  2) Diana H. made three public comments – a) Solicited money for Wendy G.’s AD 73 campaign , b) announced: next Thursday, Friday, and Saturday at CHOC hospital – fundraising play – and some of our students and former faculty will be in the production “Choctown Abbey” – c) announced: Roopa hosting student success summit:  peer to peer presentations. Please attend Friday April 25 730-430 – food too.  Diana will be presenting as well. 3) Carla – April is Part Time Faculty Appreciation Month. 4) Bob U – Congratulations to Priscilla and Life Sciences for the successful opening of the new building. 
  3. C. BOARD POLICIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS:   a) The cash handling policy – at the last meeting we approved the proposed draft of the A/R (administrative regulation) for cash handling despite some reservations. Kathy explained that we needed to have an A/R on the books as we have auditors at the district right now, but she assured the group that small exceptions will be made to the very detailed A/R for small cash handling issues that groups noted. Tracy F. provided some examples of confusing and objectionable language in the draft. Kathy reiterated that the policy has a blanket statement, providing for exceptions. Will come back to the next meeting with a revised draft.  b)BP - Student Travel – Kathy: one pervasive problem in this revised AR/BP is that those traveling are expected to give lots of personal information, and this seems unnecessarily intrusive. This actually increased the liability of the district, in KS’s opinion. E.g., IF you receive detailed information about a person, you are now responsible to check the credibility of the information. She believes that if you are looking to protect the district from liability, rejecting these intrusive questions is the way to go. C) BP – Civility – Faculty and faculty reps have voted against it – not the content, but the notion that this should be approached via this kind of policy. (We fear that it can be wielded to censor and otherwise harm faculty.) Kathy, on behalf of the academic senate, will let the board know that even though this has been approved as per process, the faculty remains opposed to this policy – and this  has been shown in all the committees and bodies where they voted. D) BP/AR– reflected IVC policies about building access. Our policy will stay the way we want it; those who want or need access, they can request campus safety to let them in. Saddleback has a stricter policy. The BP does reflect the different policies at our separate campuses. E) The key policy  - Police, facilities, and Glenn drafted a new policy. Will allow all full time faculty to request and received keys for the outside entrance and internal labs and classrooms.  Adjuncts can request keys with approval of their dean.  This is a new policy. 
  4. D. INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS PROGRAM:  Kathy reviewed the history of this discussion re the growth/expansion of the International Students Program. This item—expansion of the program—will stay on the senate agenda until we decide as a body to recommend an action of some kind. As things stand, we take this position: as a campus, we need to try keep the size of the program about the same, add resources to support current students, and do further research to determine success rates and needs. 
  5. E. Academic Senate Bylaws – 1) part time senate reps will be seated for an academic year and 2) elections will be held in a timely manner (i.e., asap).
  6. F. COLOR STANDARDS FOR FURNITURE FACILITIES – Curiously, the existence of a color standard is denied by those who seem to impose it. Kathy will be investigation further. Please swamp asenate@ivc.ed  and Kathy with evident examples/stories/incidents of these standards being imposed via catalogs, etc. in any of the groups of design or building meetings –Roy says: let the “swampage” commence!
  7. G. PLUS MINUS GRADING OPTIONS: Tracy F. – her school and department asked for this to be put on the agenda for discussion as her school favors a change for the sake of greater precision.  Apparently, many colleges adopt pluses and minuses. Also, keep in mind, if we switch to allowing the option of pluses/minuses, the GPA calculation does change  - sometimes to the detriment of students. There was quite a bit of discussion – re: different schools’ usage, ed code regs , gpa impact. E.g., the C- is not allowed as a grade because 1.7 GPA would not be a passing grade. A+ and A are both 4.0 per ed code (i.e., granting A pluses is permitted, but they are recorded as 4.0, just like an A). Other peculiarities. This item will come back for more discussion.  Please send you’re your thoughts and comments to Roy or me so we can represent our school.
  8. H. SAFETY AND SECURITY:  Send safety and security ideas and issues to Priscilla Ross for the safety committee to look at – she is the faculty rep on this committee. They are working on a report to bring to the senate. Roy discussed the need (also) to look at administrative presence in the evenings: night deans, who have largely disappeared. He mentioned the apparent widespread phenomenon of classes being let out very early during the nighttime sessions. Night deans currently go off the clock at 7:30 p.m., but some classes go until 10:15 (labs). Craig weighed in stating there is a police administrator in the evening to handle issues. He believes professors should have ethics to motive them to teach their full hours. He doesn’t believe that having an administrator walking around with a check-list at 9:40 pm is a good idea. (RB: clearly, Craig was explicitly rejecting any call for more administrative presence in the evening, appealing to the ideal solution to the problem as though it were a practical solution, which, plainly, it is not. In truth, Craig is offering no solution at all.)
  9. I. Journalism Production Course – Melanie and Roy made clear what is being proposed, including support for the instructor in the form of LHE. (Some asked why the old program and newspaper were allowed to die; we briefly explained, emphasizing that, nowadays, “things are different.” [See, even I can wield rhetoric.) The vote in support of the endeavor was 21-0. Kathy also said she will take faculty support to all appropriate meetings she attends. 
  10. J. GE Pattern for Discharged Veterans – Asked to approve giving Veterans credit for Area 9 Life experience in the GE Pattern of requirements based on their training by waving the Area 9 requirement for Veterans. Curriculum drilled down and looked at the details and vetted this – their training and work does meet Area 9 for Native GE Pattern – no units will be given, but a check in the box that the area 9 as complete with no further coursework needed. 
  11. K. Resolution  about ACCJC  - Oxnard College drafted a resolution asking the ACCJC to be more collaborative and amend their behavior – in support of San Francisco City College, whose accreditation has been withdrawn. Our Senate voted to put on the record their support for this resolution, discussing the many ways the ACCJC has moved away from its mission. We are asked to also reflect over the break about this and let our senate cabinet know what else we would like the cabinet to do regarding this, at plenary or elsewhere. (RB: there seemed to be lots of passion about the badness of the ACCJC and its demands.)
  12. L. Curriculum – Pre-reqs, co-reqs, and advisories being examined by curriculum because it has been law for two years and we need to start paying attention to following the law – more to come. 
  13. M. IVC 2 IVC – [Shameless plug to follow] Melanie will be co-presenting with Patric Taylor on Monday April 7th from 4-7pm.  Taylor, from our theater department, researched, created and published  (for his doctoral dissertation) a unique strategy for teaching the content vocabulary in any course. Melanie helped test the strategy in the course of his research. This strategy works well and is easily incorporated into lectures and teaching – and costs nothing. They’ll demonstrate the strategy and discuss the research support and data. Please join them!  Rumor has it that there will be Starburst candy during the presentation…

Thursday, March 6, 2014

• March 6, 2014: expanding the International Students Program?


March 6, 2014 meeting of the Academic Senate (Rep Council)

Some important stuff, I guess, occurred at this meeting:

BROWN ACT. Evidently, there are new Brown Act regulations (or a new interpretation of old BA regulations) according to which, henceforth, the Academic Senate must use clickers to vote during meetings (the point is that we need to record each Senator’s vote). Wow. [The Brown Act is California’s “open meetings law,” which attempts to secure openness in the operations of “legislative bodies”—such as City Councils, Boards of Education, etc. To a degree, our Senate is a legislative body.]

FYI: VP of SS Linda Fontanilla generally attends senate meetings. One might suggest that, in the past, VPI Craig Justice attended these meetings in order “to keep tabs on the faculty,” that dark and duplicitous crew. Now, Linda seems to have been assigned that unsavory task.

Linda announced that “Senior Day” was a great success.

Dean, Online and Extended Education, Cathleen Greineranother Cuesta refugee (who, natch, was snapped up by IVC when she was fired from Cuesta)—informed the group about AB86, legislation that provides money for, well, whatnot. Something about adult ed and “career pathways.”

The always vigilant  Tracy F of Social Sciences asked if there were any new developments re administration’s recent apparent trial balloon of taking control of co-curricular funds away from student government. --Nope. (See previous meeting’s notes.)

CREAN LUTHERAN AGAIN. Tracy said she has concerns about CONTRACT ED. She seemed concerned about our program at Crean Lutheran High in particular. (She didn’t identify the problems.)
(You’ll recall that, about two years ago, some remarkable irregularities came to light at Crean: adjuncts were pressured to sign disclosures or assurances about their religious views, etc.)
Tracy asked: are we having the right kinds of discussions before getting involved in this sort of program? If it isn’t working, how do we fix it?

Item 6: Board Policies and Administrative Regulations
Ac. Sen. Pres. Kathy Schmeidler went home owing to illness, and so VP Bob Urell ran the meeting. He reported that Kathy had hoped we would approve BP3007 (concerning restrictions on handling cash) and AR4000.8 (Access to Campus Facilities ). The former was indeed approved; the latter was held over pending answers to some questions.
We took no action on any of the other BPs and ARs on the list for item 6—and so some expected discussions did not occur. Not yet.

INTERNATIONAL  STUDENTS. Item 9 concerns the International Students Program. The senate has been joining in the campus discussion of the advisability of “growing” this program. ESL (and the School of H&L) has pursued the notion that we should consider whether we are supporting these students sufficiently now—before we consider expanding the program. (Recently, at least one senator expressed distaste for spending money on foreign students. Chemicals can mess you up.)
I do believe that one or two of the Senate cabinet members revealed their opinion that administration has shown its hand: that they’re interested in expanding the Int’l Student Program simply to increase revenue. Not sure.

In the past, many have suggested that we should not expand this program for the sake of revenue only.


The ESL duo of Jeff and Rebecca has been visiting the senate in the spirit of providing “clarifying info,” not promoting any particular action or measure. (That’s the idea they were selling anyway.)
At this point, this much seems clear: many Int’l students are not well-served by the program. Evidently, many of them are simply not prepared to do regular course work, owing to language difficulties, etc. But since their form of residence in the U.S. is limited to three years, often, these students find that they must return to their countries before they have secured their goals at the college.

(Digression: dang, this is the sort of thing I had in mind when, early on in the senate’s discussion of the Int’l Students Program (perhaps five or six weeks ago), I asked how the Int’l crowd views our program. At the time, people seemed to be in a great hurry to explain that the program is a great benefit to foreign students. But if this pattern of disgruntlement is significant, then our program is not so clearly a benefit.)

Our current level of support (of Int’l students) looks pretty  feeble when we compare our program with that of other colleges in the area. Clearly, we need to support these students better than we have been.

Meanwhile, there is a great demand for this kind of program. It’s growing quickly.

(It is beginning to seem that administration will get what they want as usual. In the end, the program will expand quickly but support will remain feeble.)

The senate unanimously approved:

Appointment to Strategic Planning and Accreditation Council (SPAC): Steve Felder
Appointment to Academic Planning and Technology Committee (APTC): Brooke Choo

The senate approved the “Revised Mission and Vision Statements.” I think they’re shit. I voted against them. But there’s no stopping that train.

Item 13 was the Basic Aid funding priority list.

Evidently, you can participate in the discussion of this “prioritization” by going here:


This year, we don’t know how much money is available. Bob U suggested that perhaps $40 million in basic aid dollars is available, but there are various restrictions. (As you know, basic aid is supposed to be used for one-off expenses, not ongoing expenses.)

One of the items concerns the safety gizmos (with blue lights) that are on campus. Evidently, there’s one between the PAC and BSTIC. It’s been broken for some time. It provides a direct line to the police, I think—a security thing. Martin M of PE told a story of a student and her bad episode with a coyote, in the dark. Evidently, repair of the device has been held up by an issue concerning coordination with Saddleback College. We all stared into that black hole, making unpleasant faces.

There was discussion of the resource request form. Using the overhead, we went to it, were showed how to use it, navigate. But it was much too complex to learn much from this brief presentation.
Evidently, Davit, the budget guy, will email everyone a link.

Item 14 was the Full-Time DSPS Counselor Hiring. That was approved, with one abstention.

Item 15 was the Faculty Hiring Priority List Process, which has been revised. It was approved.

Item 16 was a revision to our bylaws. Approved.

50 SHADES OF GRAY. Item 17 concerned Color standards for furniture and facilities, an item I had requested on my own behalf and on behalf of several in our School. As you know, in our negotiations/conversation with architects concerning design/construction of A400, “administration” has played a curious card: they have appealed to alleged “color” standards for furniture and facilities—known informally as “50 shades of gray.” It soon became clear that many in the room were disgruntled owing to their experiences participating in this kind of negotiation/conversation. Always, we’re told that we (faculty) will have much “input,” but, in the end, we’re often simply told how it is going to be, faculty input be damned. Several senators expressed skepticism about the very existence of a “standard.” One declared, with great confidence, that there is no standard. In the end, the group directed the cabinet to pursue this matter: to compel administration to explain the nature and origin of any such standard, etc. (Evidently, this matter is “time sensitive.”)

Discussion of the “plus and minus grading option”  was put off until the next meeting.

Toward the end of the meeting, Courses maven Diana H thanked everyone for their work revising course outlines. She reminded everyone that HONORS COURSES need to be a part of a degree. If that is not the case, you must act now.


VP Bob Urell discussed changes in DRAC, which abbreviates something like the “District resources allocation committee.” In any case, DRAC is the entity that divides up district money between IVC and Saddleback.

A little history: IVC has a long history of being treated as the little brother to SC, and it has on occasion had to fight hard for resources against a bullying Saddleback College. The old DRAC model works with the notion that 65% goes to SC and 35% goes to IVC, but, upon looking at the data, one quickly realizes that those proportions are wrong. Recently, Craig Justice has done a comparison of SC and IVC programs and has found that, in many cases, our programs are nearly the size of our sister college’s. In some cases, our programs even surpass SC in size. This data was recently presented at Instructional Council.

Bob advised faculty to look at the data and to get up to speed on this issue. Our goal, he said, is change the DRAC model.  Expect Sturm und Drang.

I do believe that a link to this data is readily available—probably at the Ac Senate website. (Melanie, do you remember?)

I’ll get back to you with the link.


--Roy and Mel