Senate meeting, Sept. 7 2017
Big issues? Our Budget Crisis. ATEP. A new school at IVC (to be housed at ATEP). MacDonald’s proposal (about a new school, branding and such)
As you know, recently, we received a communication from the district (the Chancellor and Pres. Jamal) that stated:
Our district is working closely with the California Community Colleges State Chancellor’s Office to advocate with Congress on a permanent resolution to help students who are impacted by the president’s decision. If you are interested in lending your support for this effort, please click here to contact your representatives.
During “Public Comments,” I noted that many of us are concerned about our DACA kids and wonder what the district/colleges are doing for them. That yielded a fair amount of largely encouraging discussion. I may be mistaken, but I believe the matter has been agendized for next meeting. (If not, we can still do that, if desired.)
Please let us (i.e., Henry and/or me) know what you desire. Do you have complaints, worries, suggestions? Is there something we can suggest? PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS ASAP.
There seems to be a move afoot to provide information about the legal situation of our DACA students—clearly, many of these students are very concerned in part because they have no clear notion of what is about to occur. During discussion, Counselor Robert M alluded to a communication with someone who assured him that the state of California plans some form of non-cooperation with Mr. Trump’s recent anti-DACA decision, whatever it turns out to be.
Various reassuring comments were made, but it was clear that there is a fair amount of uncertainty and confusion out there about the ramifications of Mr. Trump’s decision for DACA students, and we need to address that. The new senate prez (June M) seemed fully to support more discussion and information re DACCA and related matters.
Executive reports
Senate President: June McLaughlin [she recently replaced Kathy Schmeidler]
The big college issue is the BUDGET—a big problem for us (not for Saddleback College). There have been severe cuts, including in the schedule. “Please report back how the spring scheduling worked for your school.”
June alluded to some standard “narrative” about why we are experiencing these severe budget issues. I asked her to provide that narrative. I think she said that our special money issue is usually attributed to a raise in salaries plus the actions of the former Vice President of Instruction re overscheduling. Skepticism at the college about the narrative is fairly widespread.
Vice-President: Jefferey Kaufmann
Need to get bodies in seats on various committees.
The committee architecture is over-burdened. Too many committees. We need to push for reform in that area.
Academic Affairs (Dan D):
Dan mentioned that we will be attempting to get DAL (distinguished lecture series) funding. He said something about Flex week too. (Clearly, either Dan needs to invest in voice amplification or I need to invest in a hearing aid. The latter, I think.)
He said that we’ll continue to attempt to improve the professional development funds situation. (We want more support for attending conferences and the like.)
There’s a move afoot to improve “new faculty orientation.”
Curriculum: Diana:
We need a rep from The Arts, LLR, student body. Bodies needed.
Tech Review Committee will process 340 courses in the coming months!
Policy now changed. Approval can now occur locally, i.e., just at the college, not at the state. All that the state bureaucrats will do is “spot check.” Much faster turnaround now.
Tech Review 2: still open to new members
Cooperative work experience: undergoing a big revision in district.
All CTE courses are undergoing review. Diana mentions various “codes.”
Emeritus – will be moved to noncredit, moved to the new school (see below)
CET: rule in Title 5. Bring labor info before submit program. Lots of schools didn’t know that.
Course Catalog. Curriculum will be going through our course catalog. It’s ugly. Lots of errors. More than we like.
Chancellor’s office has a new curriculum unit. 18 of our programs are “missing” at the state. Some kind of snafu. Hilarious, said D, with some form of irony. SC is missing 68 of its programs. (Even more hilarious.) New program bugs.
Item J: naming of the new ATEP building.
Jeff: two issues. Naming of building. Other: approval of new school (i.e. our 11th Academic Unit)
Item J was “Naming of the New ATEP Building.”
You’ll recall that, years ago, SC’s Burnett and our own Glenn got into an ugly urination tourney regarding “who controls ATEP.” In the end, then-Chancellor Poertner made like Solomon and decided that two exactly similar buildings would be constructed at the site, one for SC and one for IVC. Ours was to be built first.
Well, ours is well on its way and folks have been scrambling to do what needs to be done to fill the building.
There’s a proposal (by a committee) to name the building “Integrated Design, Engineering and Automation” (i.e., “IDEA”). I gather (from discussion) that this name corresponds to existing programs—programs that, it has been assumed, would be taught out there. Evidently, some felt that the “IDEA” acronym is problematic because it already designates other things. Still, the members of the committee feel that this name is best. “OK, then,” we thought.
There are two very distinct issues here. One is: what shall we name this building? The other is: shall we create another School (and will it be named “Integrated Design, Engineering and Automation”)?
At this point, we halted discussion of J and moved to item N: Budget, Enrollments and the new school at ATEP.
VPI MacDonald came up to present about that. My heart sank (just a little). I like ‘em, but I don’t expect good ideas from him.
He noted our massive budget crisis. M said that it is his nature to take care of one big problem at a time, and so, last year, he was all over accreditation. (And didn’t that turn out swell!) Now he’s all over the budget crisis and the imminent opening of our ATEP building.
MacDonald was there to sell an idea.
We need leverage in our efforts to get money from the district. One source of leverage is productivity/efficiency. Essentially, MacDonald wants us to use our relative productivity/efficiency as a bargaining chip re distribution of funds between SC and IVC.
In last 4 years, he said, both colleges have taken a dive, productivity-wise, efficiency-wise.
We provided lots of access. Went above cap. Our model does not allow us to claim. $2.2 million over budget. “You can’t operate like that.” Plan: let’s get back in line, a 525 (a productivity score—student hours over instructors).
Every school has been given reasonable goal of productivity.
MacDonald’s big idea concerns ATEP. Want to get ATEP off of the IVC budget. If we get ATEP off, we can grow FTES. Can’t let ATEP sink. Want ATEP to support itself.
The programs at ATEP can’t support lots of managers….. Need more FTES out there. That’s why we will move Emeritus out there. It has not been efficient, but it can be. To that end, we must rewrite Emeritus courses. (Apparently, there’s now a massive effort to rewrite all the Emeritus courses by December, I think.)
The building was designed for five programs. Makes sense to put those five programs in the building. We need to get MORE FTES out there.
MacDonald wants to create a school, to be called “Integrated Design, Engineering and Automation,” I guess, and that will be how our stuff at ATEP will be branded. It’ll be the name of the building, too. All part of a marketing strategy, a strategy to get more Full Time Equivalent Students (FTESs).
A separate school that funds itself. That’s the idea.
At least one senator haltingly suggested that, hey, maybe we should just pull the plug on ATEP altogether, since it’s been such a dog from the very beginning. She is correct: ATEP has been nothing but a money pit all these years.
MacDonald seemed to respond by saying that it exists and we’ve got to deal with it. We’ve got to make it work. He wants to reconfigure things so that it generated FTES and helps us with our budget woes.
We voted on naming the building “Integrated Design, Engineering and Automation.” I believe it passed, 15-5-4. Far from unanimous.
New business
Our LGBTQ Liaison, Alan Bilsborough, has “resigned from the District.” We need a replacement, and our own Henry Carnie has volunteered. Henry clarified that he has in mind sharing the office with one Anna Florez of student health. Everybody seemed to like that idea.
I fell into a coma about then. So that’s all I’ve got.
—ROY
Your senators:
- Henry Carnie
- Roy Bauer
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